Example Of Royaljordanian's 70% Rule

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sjbali

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To see what this Rule is about, please watch RJ's video and brilliant explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSgIB...

Doing the twisties here is never easy, because of the traffic and substandard road conditions. So it's no surprise that I hit a little pothole but no panic just let the bike find the line with minimal breaking, recover and off we go.

In regards of the 70% rule, any faster and I would have ended up kissing that mountain side to the left or the guard rail to the right.

Ride safe everyone and keep it within your limits.

 
I didn't know about RJ's 70% rule.
That'll come in handy, last time I was riding twisties I got scared for some reason and ended up going wide into the other lane. Luckily there were no incoming traffic.
 
Very true. Ride your own ride, you can catch your mates up later, if they don't appreciate where you're comfortable and leave you/don't wait for you at the next junction, find a different group of mates to ride with.
 
Lurch said:
Very true. Ride your own ride, you can catch your mates up later, if they don't appreciate where you're comfortable and leave you/don't wait for you at the next junction, find a different group of mates to ride with.
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Exactly that! You'll find those who go on about speeds etc, are the ones you read about in the papers
 
C&C said:
Do people really do this?
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Yes. On organized group rides or "casual groups" when you just start following some other riders.
Of all accidents I saw that were caused while riding on a group, the reason is exactly that one.
 
As a relatively new rider, I've just started figuring this out, to be honest. I've never really pushed my limits too far purposefully, mostly because I'm learning what those limits are. But I've taken note of times that I have crossed the line (literally and figuratively) and learning from those mistakes. I went out into the mountains a couple of months back and rode wide a few too many times, particularly while being tailgated by someone. It was then that I realised that it was just a tad beyond my skill level so I turned back and headed home. Still had mad fun and was ultimately satisfied with my journey.
 
Following the 70% rule has been in the back of my mind ever since I started riding. I'm glad I watched that video before I started riding.
 
i kinda get it...but is RJ saying (as an example) if your bike can do 100mph then ride it at 70 ?

How do apply this to leaning, braking ect... just trying to do the maths would probably make me crash...sorry bit confused.
 
biker1968 said:
i kinda get it...but is RJ saying (as an example) if your bike can do 100mph then ride it at 70 ?

How do apply this to leaning, braking ect... just trying to do the maths would probably make me crash...sorry bit confused.
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Okay so i'll try to explain what I've taken from this.
Say you are at a set of lights, and what pulls up next to you could be anything, A mate, a douche, a stranger on a bike that makes yours seem weak.
If he drags and speeds off at a rate that you can barley catch him, and you try to catch him, you a riding at 100% you are pushing yourself further than the bike or your ability allows. If anything goes wrong, you have nothing, no ounce of ability to correct yourself.

Now this can be then interpreted in any situation which you might need to push yourself or your bike, Filtering through traffic, riding with a pillion, over taking at high speed.
As long as you hold back that 30%, then you have that to work with if things go to shit.

I agree with this theory, but I was taught it on my Mod 2 of my A2 test. And we called it Forward Planning.
 
biker1968 said:
i kinda get it...but is RJ saying (as an example) if your bike can do 100mph then ride it at 70 ?

How do apply this to leaning, braking ect... just trying to do the maths would probably make me crash...sorry bit confused.
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It doesn't have much to do with math as it has to do with skill.
Your bike can do 100? How much of your skill you use riding it at that speed? Piece of cake? Just keep riding. Struggling to think that fast? You're about 100% of your ability to control the bike. Reduce the speed or push your ceiling, learning how to feel less overwhelmed at speed so you'll have more slack in case something goes wrong.
He never said anything about speed or filtering, it is just about skill.
 
Push your ceiling? Isn't that just saying push yourself to 130% so 100% feels like 70%?
If you want to improve your 100% then isn't it learning to look ahead and work out in your mind whats going on faster, rather than sharpening your reaction time?
 
OlliePrice said:
Push your ceiling? Isn't that just saying push yourself to 130% so 100% feels like 70%?
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Exactly that, I was actually writing that but decided to drop it to avoid talking with numbers.

OlliePrice said:
If you want to improve your 100% then isn't it learning to look ahead and work out in your mind whats going on faster, rather than sharpening your reaction time?
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Both things play a role when riding at speed.
I don't know if this happens to all riders but for the first 3 months of riding I felt like I was going fast at 40km/h, 60km/h was flying, nearly crashed the first time I pushed the bike to 100km/h and my mind couldn't cope with the speed. Clearly I was riding at 110% of my skill when my speed was 100km/h at the time. A lot of times I felt overwhelmed by the traffic and ended up stalling my bike or doing stupid things.
Then I got used to it, improved my skill, learned to read traffic and try to predict the movement of all drivers and peds until now where I can comfortably cruise at 130km/h. 120km/h will be my 70% skill.

Something I don't know how to read are packs of scooters. They're unpredictable to me and when cornered behind them my reaction is to fly to the front as fast as I can. That put me in trouble a good amount of times.
 
Shirou said:
Exactly that, I was actually writing that but decided to drop it to avoid talking with numbers.
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Yeah I guess so, but my point is we are discussing how riding at 100% is sure to get you in trouble... so how will riding at 130% be any safer. I don't know, I've only had 2 1/2 years on the road and I stick to speed limits now after a few close calls. Track riding doesn't really interest me. unless its Monza :P
 
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