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YouTube HTML5

Postby danmoto73 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:59 am

wow has anyone seen this :geek:

http://www.youtube.com/html5

ratings seem to be gone and i think replaced with thumbs up or down, unless it's still there and i'm just being a daft arse and can't see it, i like the format but the ratings disappearing would be very differant :o haha

sorry if this is a re-post, i would go check but can't be bothered :P
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Re: YouTube HTML5

Postby Fudmottin » Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:31 am

I'm looking forward to the demise of Flash. I'm not quite ready to be a test tube yet though.
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Re: YouTube HTML5

Postby boobtubester » Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:35 am

YT staffers seem intent on wanting to "simplify and streamline" the user experience. Have a look at this YT blog post to see what the future holds. The 5 star rating system is indeed going away. Click on this link to try out the new video player page & see other changes as well (anyone can opt-in/out). :geek:
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Re: YouTube HTML5

Postby MeanMachine » Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:16 am

Great changes are coming our way. Not sure it's a good thing, tho. Look what happened last time YT changed the channels layout. Absolute crap. I still hate it. Good thing is the adoption of HTML5, flash is a dying platform anyway (from a coder POV).
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Re: YouTube HTML5

Postby boobtubester » Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:54 am

MeanMachine wrote:Look what happened last time YT changed the channels layout. Absolute crap. I still hate it.

U still don't like the new channel design/layout?!? :shock: I'm quite used to it now, altho I certainly hope they continue tweaking it. I would really like to see YT totally revamp their video inbox system, it's a complete hassle to use & is utterly useless to me. I'm also not quite sure how I'm supposed to use various home page modules. The only ones I occasionally look at are "Recent Activity" & "Recommended For You." I usually don't bother with the other stuff. :)
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Re: YouTube HTML5

Postby MeanMachine » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:52 pm

Well, I'm also "used to it" rather than "prefer it". Why is that instead of improving it by listening to the community, they continue to dictate their rules. they only get away with it because it's the best known place to find videos and has the largest user base. They are sitting in their own shade, I believe. Not all is bad, except with this 1080p player layout change, streaming is much slower on 720p than was before. I notice, I have a 100Mbps fiber optic downlink.
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Re: YouTube HTML5

Postby hughes111 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:45 pm

I do not like it, while flash has it's issues, Flash has always been the breeding group for pretty much anything with large content or video playback features like youtube, most sites of course intergrated with Java. Why move to HTML5? It offers nothing new that couldn't be done before, only increases the chances of more problems.

Though youtube is a free service and well, we've no real right to moan. Once again, i don't like change! I still like the old channel design but i'm used to this one.
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Re: YouTube HTML5

Postby boobtubester » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:13 am

MeanMachine wrote:Why is that instead of improving it by listening to the community, they continue to dictate their rules.

They're catering to the folks who will pay them $$$. And who can blame them, after all they are a business & they wanna be profitable sooner rather than later. ;)

The new channel design seems to be more modular, it fits in nicely with many other features only offered to paying YT partners. All of these paid (or sponsored) channels have many fancy features that u never see on the standard freebie (non-paid) channels. I kinda think all of these features will eventually get rolled out to regular channels, but for now they reserve that stuff for folks who pay up. :)

hughes111 wrote:Why move to HTML5?
HTML5 is being developed as the next major revision of HTML (Hypertext Markup Language), the core markup language of the World Wide Web...

HTML5 is the proposed next standard for HTML 4.01, XHTML 1.0 and DOM Level 2 HTML. It aims to reduce the need for proprietary plug-in-based rich internet application (RIA) technologies such as Adobe Flash, Microsoft Silverlight, and Sun JavaFX...

Nothing remains static on the internet H, change is inevitable. ;)
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Re: YouTube HTML5

Postby Fudmottin » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:20 am

The reason to move to HTML5 is that it is an open standard, unlike Flash which is solely under the control of Adobe. At least with HTML5, there are two large companies cooperating with the standard (Apple and Google).

There are other benefits. Improved security for one. Flash breaks the security model of the Internet. Another is hardware acceleration. Flash is only compiled to work properly with Windows. The video streams can easily work with other operating systems if they are liberated from Flash. h.264 is an ITU standard that has been around for over 10 years now. Hardware to support it is abundant. But Flash can't use it.

The end result is better accessibility. The Internet is supposed to be platform neutral. Flash breaks that.
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Re: YouTube HTML5

Postby LoudPipe5 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:30 am

From YT blog: "Simplified binary ratings: As we noted in an earlier blog post, the rating system on YouTube doesn't really work that well (e.g. only the 1 and 5 star ratings were ever really used). So we moved towards a simpler "Like / Don't Like" model. Liking a video will also save it to your Favorites to make it easy to find those videos again. "

From my understanding if a video has a lower rating it will not show up on searches. So if I can bear to finish a video, I usually give it 5 stars (especially if I am a subscriber). This doesn't mean that I want to add it to my favorites. Am I wrong about how the system currently works?

It seems like the choice will be don't rate or add to favorites. THAT BITES!
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